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dfduarte
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 4:04:57 AM



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Several users in Brazil are reporting training in the range of 0.1 to 0.3 for their 19-20yo characters. I myself don't remember ever training less than 0.4 and that changed when i turned 20, the last two days were in the low 0.3, this is the new usual training for us Sad

Its not even only for high (fantastic/sq) attributes, this also happens in the 60-70 range including a + 0.12 in a 64 value attribute, that is really bad for a 20yo...

This can't be right, right? Biggrin

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 9:17:47 AM



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Training, like a lot of things in FID, is based on a randomness factor. There are always times when you will receive a run of bad training because of this.

For 5 days I received 0.2 on my 20 year old GK, 6th day 0.86.

This is working correctly just a bad run.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 9:31:19 AM





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dfduarte wrote:
Several users in Brazil are reporting training in the range of 0.1 to 0.3 for their 19-20yo characters. I myself don't remember ever training less than 0.4 and that changed when i turned 20, the last two days were in the low 0.3, this is the new usual training for us Sad

Its not even only for high (fantastic/sq) attributes, this also happens in the 60-70 range including a + 0.12 in a 64 value attribute, that is really bad for a 20yo...

This can't be right, right? Biggrin


1) evryone have "no great rolls" sometimes.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:56:15 AM





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We are trainning with full wage.

It's not about random, we talking about trainning curve.

How 1x trainning 26 yo is better than a 1x trainning 20 yo?

Btw 26yo not full wage.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:59:05 AM




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renancrb wrote:
We are trainning with full wage.

It's not about random, we talking about trainning curve.

How 1x trainning 26 yo is better than a 1x trainning 20 yo?

Btw 26yo not full wage.



good question for admins, i just hope the game is not broke...

btw, my 20 yo CM got minimum 0,26 training to 91+ atts
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 11:29:43 AM





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It's fine. Training is best at 18-19yo and slows down when you hit 20, but then gets a bit better when you turn 22 due to higher wages.

Honestly, have you looked at the characters that have been trained on this training curve? For example, this CF or this SM of mine (a lot of the fantastics on both chars are almost SQ). Should they be even better?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 11:46:43 AM




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Mini Miudo wrote:
It's fine. Training is best at 18-19yo and slows down when you hit 20, but then gets a bit better when you turn 22 due to higher wages.

Honestly, have you looked at the characters that have been trained on this training curve? For example, this CF or this SM of mine (a lot of the fantastics on both chars are almost SQ). Should they be even better?


Hmm, same age have the most chars in Adriatic league, 24-25 you , and it´s pretty close to yours, can check the teams in WC , Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia smiling
So this is the curve, don´t think can get better, this is it´s peak probably Thinking
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 12:20:12 PM





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If you can get an SM with SQ dribble+tackle+secondaries, Good passing and shooting, the training curve shouldn't be better, otherwise we're back to the days where everyone's got a billion SQs. Flapper
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 12:21:21 PM



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Mini Miudo wrote:
It's fine. Training is best at 18-19yo and slows down when you hit 20, but then gets a bit better when you turn 22 due to higher wages.

Honestly, have you looked at the characters that have been trained on this training curve? For example, this CF or this SM of mine (a lot of the fantastics on both chars are almost SQ). Should they be even better?


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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 12:31:53 PM




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Mini Miudo wrote:
If you can get an SM with SQ dribble+tackle+secondaries, Good passing and shooting, the training curve shouldn't be better, otherwise we're back to the days where everyone's got a billion SQs. Flapper


Forgot about specials, items. Those should be added in the formula. So: SQ dribble+tackle+secondaries, Good passing and shooting is still stands if you need 4-5*step, 360+ some 5-6 mil spent on shirt, boots,etc ?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 12:52:06 PM



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This is a good point, will this youngsters be able to train any special skill to 4 or 5 stars? Just one or 2 skills is still possible? Maybe when they are too old and with max salary, but at that point most of their careers will be over... whats the point?

As a defensive mid fielder i have to train tackle, fight for ball, pass... its a lot of skills to train at 0.3 steps, not to mention the specials, zidane, sliding... without those i won't tackle any good dribler.

I forgot to mention in the first post that this is with max salary for a 20 yo. But OK, the curve changes when you leave the 18-19 gap, but the hit is huge, very noticeable. Shouldn't it take in consideration that at 20 the salary is still very low?

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 2:00:22 PM





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Specials/items aren't influenced by your age, only by your salary. So the training curve is irrelevant to that. Either way, it's possible to have both high stats and specials. You'll find the SM I linked also has 4* step, 3* 360 (almost 4), 2* slide/maradona, 1* zidane/hollywood (almost 2)...

Seriously, while it looks that training is slow when you're 20yo, it has to be like that so characters won't become ridiculously overpowered in the long run.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:02:08 PM



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#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:19:42 PM




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Ferrazza11 wrote:
I prefer this SM Flapper


yep, a nice specimen of full grown SM with everything it needs to perform Applause
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